Quarrel in the CEI over the Mass. De Marco explains whyOriginal article (Italian): Baruffa in CEI sulla messa. De Marco spiega perché
From the discussion between the thirty bishops of the permanent council of the Italian Episcopal Conference (CEI), held behind closed doors, the opposition of some to the motu Proprio “Summorum Pontificum” of Benedict XVI which has liberalised the old rite of the Mass, has leaked out.
The barrage of the critics dominated the discussion from Monday 17th, immediately after the introduction of the president of CEI, Angelo Bagnasco, until Wednesday 19 September. Notable among the opponents are Carlo Ghidelli, bishop of Lanciano-Ortona; Bruno Forte, archbishop of Chieti-Vasto; Benvenuto Italo Castellani, archbishop of Lucca; Paolo Romeo, archbishop of Palermo; and Felice Di Molfetta, bishop of Cerignola and president of the Episcopal Liturgy Commission. Already, before the publication of the motu proprio, Molfetta had approved the letter sent to the Pope by a group of Italian liturgists to ask him not to proceed with the liberalisation of the old rite.
In the judgement of these opponents, the ecclesiology contained in the old missal is “incompatible” with that set out by the second Vatican Council. Because of this, they proposed that CEI should prepare a document interpreting the papal motu proprio in a restrictive sense.
But the proposal was not approved. Other bishops from the Directorate of CEI declared in defence of the decision of Benedict XVI, in particular Camillo Ruini, Angelo Scola and Carlo Caffarra.
Magister goes on to refer to an article by Pietro de Marco looking at various underlying questions. ("La ricchezza tradizionale intera del culto cristiano è, per Benedetto, il canone cui attingere..."). It is a very good article but I am afraid I haven't time to translate it now. If someone else does, please let me know and I'll post a link.
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Sad, but not unexpected.
This is not a comment on this post, but just to draw attention to a different opposition to Pope Benedict, closer to home in this week's poisonous pill. It's an article on or by Dutch Dominicans, arguing for the contradiction of lay people saying Mass. If you take Dutch Dominicans' initials and insert two zeros for the vacuity of their theology, you get DODO.No prizes for guessing the link between Dutch Dominicans and the Dodo!
Its sad to see this rubbish piled high for sale in our Cathedral.
regrds, Ken
regards, Ken
I don't know why, but Humanae Vitae came to mind while reading this, and how people tried to undermine that.
What ever happened to humble acceptance?
Ok, I'm just a simpleton and I believe when the Holy Father does something, such as giving us Summorum Pontificum, due reverence should be given.
Since dissent seems to come from "Spirit of Vatican II types", how about a review of Lumen Gentium 25 (c):
c) This religious submission of mind and will must be shown in a special way to the authentic magisterium of the Roman Pontiff, even when he is not speaking ex cathedra; that is, it must be shown in such a way that his supreme magisterium is acknowledged with reverence, the judgments made by him are sincerely adhered to, according to his manifest mind and will. his mind and will in the matter may be known either from the character of the documents, from his frequent repetition of the same doctrine, or from his manner of speaking.
The Secretary of the Italian Bishop Conference has clearly rejected what those journalists wrote.
ROMA, martedì, 25 settembre 2007 (ZENIT.org).- Il Segretario generale della Conferenza Episcopale Italiana (CEI), monsignor Giuseppe Betori, ha smentito in maniera categorica che ci siano state divisioni tra i Vescovi circa l’applicazione del Motu proprio “Summorum Pontificorum” ed ha respinto la campagna di calunnie lanciata contro alcuni Vescovi italiani.
E' questo in sostanza quanto affermato dal Vescovo nel corso della conferenza stampa svoltasi a Roma il 25 settembre per la presentazione delle conclusioni del Consiglio Episcopale permanente della CEI.
Circa il confronto che, secondo alcuni giornali, si sarebbe verificato tra i Vescovi in merito all’applicazione del Motu proprio “Summorum Pontificorum”, monsignor Betori ha affermato che l’intenzione della CEI “è quella di una fedele e totale applicazione secondo lo spirito del Motu proprio così come lo ha espresso il Santo Padre nella lettera di accompagnamento. Da questo punto di vista l’applicazione deve avvenire secondo lo spirito indicato dal Santo Padre”.
“Mi permetto di dire – ha precisato Betori – che alcune ricostruzioni giornalistiche del dibattito interno non corrispondono a verità. Né per quanto riguarda i partecipanti al dibattito, inclusi o esclusi nel dibattito stesso”.
“Mai – ha sottolineato il Segretario della CEI – è stata sollevata l’ipotesi di un regolamento applicativo. Nessuno lo ha chiesto e mai questa ipotesi è stata fatta”.
Monsignor Betori ha spiegato che “nessun Vescovo è contro il Motu proprio, se c’è qualche Vescovo che rifiuta l’applicazione del Motu proprio esce dalla linea della Conferenza Episcopale Italiana ed anche dall’invito del Santo Padre”.
“Nel caso di Milano – ha continuato il Segretario della CEI – non si tratta di un rifiuto del Motu proprio perché le parrocchie che sono di rito romano lo applicano, ma non riguarda il rito ambrosiano. E’un problema di autonomia”.
I wish Scola had more material available in English.
If you want to know what the objections are to the extraordinary riet let me quote for a Jeremy Bell who was the architect in the building of the notorious St Bede`s Church in Basingstoke. The full article appeared in the Church Times on 17th August. Mr Bell is an Anglican. "We have developed a theology of simplicity. The dark and cluttered Victorian Gothic church is loved by many because they can almost enclose themselves into a God-focused cocoon, and it makes them feel good. We don`t in any way want to remove from them the spiritual benefit of that, but the opportunity of worshipping as one body rather than as individuals is missed". A more patronising statement I had never read but that was just the first of many in the article. So it is indiviudal worship against the community. Remember St Bede`s where the Blessed Sacrament has been put into a corner by Mr Bell inside a strange object he calls the Burning Bush. There will be no focussing on God at St Bede`s.
This is not about this posting on the SP - just thought you might like to know - if you were not already aware that there were some good prolife advocates on tonight's Radio 4 Moral Maze. I mention this as you have given good coverage in the past to pro-life issues.
Angelo - saw that earlier today, on Magister in fact! I'll translate it an post it. Most interesting but it does seem to me a little like what the Americans call a non-denial denial.
Have I understood this correctly ?
Bishop Molfetta, President of the Liturgy Commission of the Italian Bishops' Conference, is of the opinion that the ecclesiology contained in the 1962 Missal is incompatible with that of the Second Vatican Council.
That would mean he believes in a conciliar Church which is incompatible with the pre-conciliar Church.
That sounds to me like the hermeneutic of rupture condemned by the Pope in December 2006.
I would be pleased to hear that I have misunderstood.
The letter from the Secretary of the Italian Bishops' Conference , kindly provided by Angelo, does not seem to address this question.
cappadocian sister - just looked at the Moral Maze section of the BBC website. I see they have Melanie Philips and Clifford Longley. OK, that's something of a counter to the euthasiasts. But to be honest, I'm not that excited by the BBC's attempt at "balance".
The modernists are coming out now. They openely affirm what traditional Catholics have believed for a long time - that the old rite typifies an ecclesiology that is incompatible with what the new rite expresses.
While I applaud and thank God for Summorum Pontificum the Holy Father has clearly backtracked on his previous views of the Novus Ordo and now calls it an equal to the old rite. How can something "fabricated" be equal to a tradition of centuries?
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