This Saturday, our traditional Latin Mass will be sung with Gregorian chant according to the Roman Gradual. The Mass starts at 10.30am and will be followed by Benediction and the Marian anthem. (The Missa Cantata is usually on the first Saturday of the month but it has been brought forward because of the parish first communion Masses.)
We will also be having traditional sung Masses on the feast of the Ascension (1 May) and Corpus Christi (22 May), both at 8pm.
If any clergy are free and would like to assist, they would be very welcome - it would be great to be able to celebrate any of these Masses as a a solemn High Mass. Just let me know in the combox - put "not for publication" if you would prefer the comment to remain confidential. Of course, if you do not feel confident enough to assist as Deacon or Subdeacon and would prefer to assist in choro, you would also be most welcome. Seminarians would also be very welcome to assist in choro or to help with serving Mass.
Directions to Our Lady of the Rosary, Blackfen.
10 comments:
Fr. Tim, have you ever considered filming one of these and putting it up in slightly less than 10 minute segments? Do you have a choir loft where Mass could be discretely filmed?
Karen
In the traditional calendar, I see the Feast of St. Joseph is once again transferred, to 2 May 2008.
In the novus ordo calendar, however, the Feast is observed on 1 May 2008.
Confusing !
It must be even more confusing at Brompton Oratory, with both calendars in daily use. I wonder how the Oratorians cope with this.
Summorum Pontificum put the 1962 and the 1970 Missals on a par legally.
Therefore, it seems the two calendars are on a par legally.
This means, as far as I can see, the Feast of St. Joseph the Worker can be celebrated, officially, without Indult, by the same priest, both on 1 May and on 2 May (if he uses both Missals).
Looking at it another way, it will be possible, and perfectly legal, to celebrate the Feast of the Ascension and the Feast of St. Joseph (at different times, and using two different Missals, of course) in the same church, on the same day, 1 May.
Several months on from Summorum Pontificum, I still find the situation slightly bizzare.
Well we could film it sometime perhaps. Thanks for the suggestion.
Dr Wright - yes, the calendar is a particular problem. I think that Pope Benedict and Ecclesia Dei want to sort this out; but it is a diplomatic nightmare!
A friend who came to stay last night brought me a little frankincense from the Yemen. Would this be of any use to you for the Corpus Christi Mass? If so, I could drop it over before then (I live in SE London).
Many thanks, Father, for your reply to my comment.
Such is the confusion between the use of the two calendars (which was bound to happen), I wasn't absolutely sure I was correct about this.
The moving (in the novus ordo calendar) of certain holidays in England & Wales to the nearest Sunday seems to have muddied the waters still further.
It gets worse in other countries. I understand in the USA that some dioceses have moved holidays, and some dioceses have not !
As far as I can make out, in the dioceses of England & Wales, 4 May 2008 is both the Feast of the Ascension and the Sunday after the Ascension, and 25 May 2008 is both the Feast of Corpus Christi and the 2nd Sunday after Pentecost, depending on which Missal is used.
And so it goes on throughout the liturgical year.
The Church now has two Missals. The Church therefore now has two calendars.
I can see how the two Missals can enrich each other in some respects, but I frankly cannot see how the two calendars could ever be conflated.
Since they enjoy parity, there seems no reason why one calendar should give way to the other.
The 1962 Missal being plenary, the traditional calendar (presumably) remains lawful until and unless the 1962 Missal is replaced with a "1962 style" Sacramentary, using a completely new calendar and a completely new lectionary.
If there were to be only one new calendar for both Missals, this would (I assume) involve scrapping the 1970 calendar and the 1970 lectionary.
This is an unlikely scenario which wouldn't really solve anything, anyway, as the traditional communities would presumably continue to use the liturgical books of 1962, following the traditional calendar.
Yes, it's a nightmare all right.
With apolgies for another lengthy comment. I'll stop it immediately.
Delia - yes please! That is very kind of you.
Karen - Just thought - I do know the guy who does filming for EWTN over here. I wonder if they might be interested in an ordinary extraordinary parish Mass...
Fr. Tim, great idea re: the EWTN guy. Go for it. The worst they could do is say no, and they might say yes!
If you don't ask you don't get. And even if they say no, you could still do it.
Karen
Please can I draw your attention to this. It seems that Ecclesia Dei are forbidding us to use the old rite calender when feasts have been transferred such as Ascension. I would be grateful if you could cover this more closely.
Matt
I've seen that notice, Matt. I don't want to write anything about it until the actual dubium and response are published. (A report on a website does not have the force of law, of course.)
Wise.
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