Therefore every scribe who has been trained for the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who brings out of his treasure what is new and what is old.
Wonderful post... until that last photo. What a disaster and an outrage!
I'd share photos of our own (somewhat simpler procession -- we didn't have all the gear this year, such as a working canopy), except the photographer hasn't gotten them to me yet.
It's like walking into a glass pane when you see that last one. We had a great one at Oxford, all the way past the Ashmolean, down the city centre and up the bus lanes on Queen Street.
ihom - it doesn't have to be grand. We had a procession on the Thursday at Blackfen on a smaller scale but it was important for all those who took part.
At first I didn't look properly at the Linz picture and thought, 'Oh, how nice that they're doing something in Linz after all that's gone on there.' Then I looked at the picture and I actually gasped. What ...on ...earth is the host being held in?
Ive been an avid follower of your blog and if I may say so, it's one of the best.
Just a quick comment though, I really do not get what in this world the last photo is (I am seriously baffled.) Is that supposed to be an Ostensorium? I do not understand!
It's not a Blessed Sacrament Procession, but a procession nonetheless, and that's rare enough in our diocese. Dokkum, the Netherlands: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=265386&id=893145579&l=51e64ec276
Reading Fr. Mildew recently, I had no idea there was such an attack on Eucharistic devotions in the years following the Council. Clearly, the "Reform of the Reform" is producing much fruit.
Can anyone suggest what type of vestment the Austrian cleric is wearing in the final picture? It's neither a chasuble nor cope from what I can make out. Looks like one of those gowns worn by South American shamans, which only look good when the wearer is dancing hysterically around a totem pole. With the Austrian bishops summoned to Rome, let’s hope the Holy Father might soon be making this chap dance to the Church’s tune.
Interesting how in the last photo, there is a lady with her head covered. As someone who said somewhere else, "Who says the reform of the reform isn't going to take off?"
Quick question, Father. Our priest at the Corpus Christi Mass spent his sermon explaining that Christ is not 'physically' present in the consecrated bread and wine (although he acknowledged Christ's 'spiritual', 'symbolic' and even 'real' presence). Would you agree with him, and why?
The Linz photo - not photoshop (you can see the YouTube videos on Cathcon). They consecrated focaccia bread and the cleric is holding the sacred host thus consecrated with some sort of barbecue tongs.
Grim reader - Pope Paul VI in Mysterium Fidei said:
"once the substance or nature of the bread and wine has been changed into the body and blood of Christ, nothing remains of the bread and the wine except for the species—beneath which Christ is present whole and entire in His physical "reality," corporeally present, although not in the manner in which bodies are in a place."
This follows the teaching of St Thomas Aquinas. Christ is present body, blood, soul and divinity. For his body to be present means that he is present in his physical reality.
Surely Grim Reaper's priest meant not physically present in the sense of there being a physical change in the bread and wine whose accidents remain. What is changed is the substance.
When I was young, many years ago a preist explained to us that the difficulty in explaining the nature of the Real Presence is that there exists nothing else with which to campare it.
But merely spiritually present? Noooo! Sounds too much like Cranmer's "after an heavenlhy and spiritual manner".
'Truly, truly I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink His blook you have no life in you: he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. for my flesh is food indeed and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him' John 6:52
I'm sorry to sound ignorant but how can Jesus Christ be
"not 'physically' present in the consecrated bread and wine" and yet the Priest still believes in the Real Presence?
In 1873 the Child Jesus appeared to Mary of the Passion with wounded and bloody hands and said to her ‘People inflicted these wounds on me with their sins’ ‘I am in the Eurcharist to dispense graces and extend mercy, but I receive only ingratitude, profanity and sacrileges. The Eucharist is dishonoured and nobody cares. My beloved one, you make reparation with your adoration done in my presence’
I think we could say that the focaccia was dishonouring the Eucharist??? Nothing changes, but today we can see everything via the internet.
David - I'm sure the priest was not trying to undermine faith in the real presence. In fact, he may well have been taught that Christ is not "physically present" - this is a common expression and in the sense you explain, i.e. that there is not a change in the elements that could be detected by physical investigation, he is right. Still, one should not simply say "Christ is not physically present".
Pope Paul VI's encyclical deserves to be better known.
Thought that you may want to arrange a Blessed Sacrament Procession to Eltham Palace this coming weekend for King Henry's Tudor Joust , it would of course then double as a peaceful demonstration and really become a living RC history event for City Hall 2009 :-)
Also on 20 June, Historic Royal Palaces will mark the 500th anniversary of Henry VIII's coronation with a magnificent pageant sailing from the Tower of London along the Thames to the King's famous residence, Hampton Court Palace. Departing at 10am, the Royal Shallop 'Jubilant' with the King and his entourage onboard will be followed by a spectacular flotilla of traditional skiffs, arriving at Hampton Court at 3pm. Visitors can explore the palace, picnic in the East Front gardens and watch the Tudor cooks hard at work in King Henry's kitchens. Music, dancing and entertainment from the King's fools will carry on until 9.45pm. On 21 June, festivities will continue at Hampton Court with traditional Tudor court fun and games on the river.
St Thomas More true prisoner of conscience pray for us!
If this really is "foccacia" bread, doesn't that have sugar and oil? I didn't hink you could put that in bread to be consecrated. No valid matter, no valid sacrament.
Whether it would invalidate it is not certain. The quantities would be such as to change it from being wheaten bread to something essentially different. I think focaccia is probably valid but certainly illicit.
Thank you for including our little procession in Zanesville. We actually found that umbrallino in the garbage can waiting to be destroyed. It's still missing a piece, and I hope to get a metal worker to re-craft the middle bar.
Anyway, I must admit to a little amusement -- processions from Rome, Oxford, Amsterdam, Linz, and ... Zanesville, OH. Nice to see our little town in such company.
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Wonderful post... until that last photo. What a disaster and an outrage!
I'd share photos of our own (somewhat simpler procession -- we didn't have all the gear this year, such as a working canopy), except the photographer hasn't gotten them to me yet.
More processions!
How beautiful the first photos are and how sad the last one is. Is Linz a reflection of the society we live in??
http://www.flickr.com/photos/38714505@N05/3627761169/in/photostream/
Amsterdam :D
Not as grand in Balornock Glasgow but ours may be of interest nonetheless.
http://ihom-ihom.blogspot.com/
It's like walking into a glass pane when you see that last one. We had a great one at Oxford, all the way past the Ashmolean, down the city centre and up the bus lanes on Queen Street.
ihom - it doesn't have to be grand. We had a procession on the Thursday at Blackfen on a smaller scale but it was important for all those who took part.
At first I didn't look properly at the Linz picture and thought, 'Oh, how nice that they're doing something in Linz after all that's gone on there.' Then I looked at the picture and I actually gasped. What ...on ...earth is the host being held in?
Greetings Father!
Ive been an avid follower of your blog and if I may say so, it's one of the best.
Just a quick comment though, I really do not get what in this world the last photo is (I am seriously baffled.) Is that supposed to be an Ostensorium? I do not understand!
The Linz photo is a joke right? The man is vested in a chasuble, no alb, and it carrying a pita bread in a pair of large tongs.
Tell me this is some sick joke and not Linz's Corpus Christi procession. PLEASE tell me it isn't so.
The photo is fake using photoshop or something like that.
Beautiful photos of sincere adoration of Our Blessed Lord, until you get to the last picture... ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
It's that Pitta bread man from Linz!
Is that an oilcloth or plastic yellow cape he's wearing to protect him from the barrage of rotten eggs that should be thrown at him!
Reminds me of ..... "then they mocked Him, saying 'Hail King of the Jews'......
Where in Heaven's name is there any sense of the Sacred in this rather silly 'statement'??? What point are they trying to make in Linz?
Blackfen procession via a Routemaster up and down Oxford Street next year?
It's not a Blessed Sacrament Procession, but a procession nonetheless, and that's rare enough in our diocese. Dokkum, the Netherlands: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=265386&id=893145579&l=51e64ec276
Reading Fr. Mildew recently, I had no idea there was such an attack on Eucharistic devotions in the years following the Council. Clearly, the "Reform of the Reform" is producing much fruit.
Can anyone suggest what type of vestment the Austrian cleric is wearing in the final picture? It's neither a chasuble nor cope from what I can make out. Looks like one of those gowns worn by South American shamans, which only look good when the wearer is dancing hysterically around a totem pole. With the Austrian bishops summoned to Rome, let’s hope the Holy Father might soon be making this chap dance to the Church’s tune.
Interesting how in the last photo, there is a lady with her head covered. As someone who said somewhere else, "Who says the reform of the reform isn't going to take off?"
Paris (more than 3,000 faithful from Saint-Nicolas-du-Chardonnet):
http://www.laportelatine.org/district/prieure/stnicol/FD2009/fd09.php
Video:
http://www.laportelatine.org/communication/videotheque/FDStNicolas09/StNic09.php
Wonderful to see so many processions. I'm sure that there must have been many more.
However, I'd have to say that the last picture is surely a sacrelige.
Quick question, Father. Our priest at the Corpus Christi Mass spent his sermon explaining that Christ is not 'physically' present in the consecrated bread and wine (although he acknowledged Christ's 'spiritual', 'symbolic' and even 'real' presence). Would you agree with him, and why?
What is it exactly that he is carring on that stick Father Tim?
The Linz photo - not photoshop (you can see the YouTube videos on Cathcon). They consecrated focaccia bread and the cleric is holding the sacred host thus consecrated with some sort of barbecue tongs.
Grim reader - Pope Paul VI in Mysterium Fidei said:
"once the substance or nature of the bread and wine has been changed into the body and blood of Christ, nothing remains of the bread and the wine except for the species—beneath which Christ is present whole and entire in His physical "reality," corporeally present, although not in the manner in which bodies are in a place."
This follows the teaching of St Thomas Aquinas. Christ is present body, blood, soul and divinity. For his body to be present means that he is present in his physical reality.
Surely Grim Reaper's priest meant not physically present in the sense of there being a physical change in the bread and wine whose accidents remain. What is changed is the substance.
When I was young, many years ago a preist explained to us that the difficulty in explaining the nature of the Real Presence is that there exists nothing else with which to campare it.
But merely spiritually present? Noooo! Sounds too much like Cranmer's "after an heavenlhy and spiritual manner".
'Truly, truly I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink His blook you have no life in you: he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. for my flesh is food indeed and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him' John 6:52
I'm sorry to sound ignorant but how can Jesus Christ be
"not 'physically' present in the consecrated bread and wine" and yet the Priest still believes in the Real Presence?
P.S. I believe the Bishop of Linz has pronounced against the outward sign of focaccia held in a pair of barbecue tongs.
In 1873 the Child Jesus appeared to Mary of the Passion with wounded and bloody hands and said to her ‘People inflicted these wounds on me with their sins’ ‘I am in the Eurcharist to dispense graces and extend mercy, but I receive only ingratitude, profanity and sacrileges. The Eucharist is dishonoured and nobody cares. My beloved one, you make reparation with your adoration done in my presence’
I think we could say that the focaccia was dishonouring the Eucharist???
Nothing changes, but today we can see everything via the internet.
David - I'm sure the priest was not trying to undermine faith in the real presence. In fact, he may well have been taught that Christ is not "physically present" - this is a common expression and in the sense you explain, i.e. that there is not a change in the elements that could be detected by physical investigation, he is right. Still, one should not simply say "Christ is not physically present".
Pope Paul VI's encyclical deserves to be better known.
Dear Father Finigan
Thought that you may want to arrange a Blessed Sacrament Procession to Eltham Palace this coming weekend for King Henry's Tudor Joust , it would of course then double as a peaceful demonstration and really become a living RC history event for City Hall 2009 :-)
Also on 20 June, Historic Royal Palaces will mark the 500th anniversary of Henry VIII's coronation with a magnificent pageant sailing from the Tower of London along the Thames to the King's famous residence, Hampton Court Palace. Departing at 10am, the Royal Shallop 'Jubilant' with the King and his entourage onboard will be followed by a spectacular flotilla of traditional skiffs, arriving at Hampton Court at 3pm. Visitors can explore the palace, picnic in the East Front gardens and watch the Tudor cooks hard at work in King Henry's kitchens. Music, dancing and entertainment from the King's fools will carry on until 9.45pm. On 21 June, festivities will continue at Hampton Court with traditional Tudor court fun and games on the river.
St Thomas More true prisoner of conscience pray for us!
I'd love to horsewhip that last guy.
If this really is "foccacia" bread, doesn't that have sugar and oil? I didn't hink you could put that in bread to be consecrated. No valid matter, no valid sacrament.
Whether it would invalidate it is not certain. The quantities would be such as to change it from being wheaten bread to something essentially different. I think focaccia is probably valid but certainly illicit.
Dear Father,
Thank you for including our little procession in Zanesville. We actually found that umbrallino in the garbage can waiting to be destroyed. It's still missing a piece, and I hope to get a metal worker to re-craft the middle bar.
Anyway, I must admit to a little amusement -- processions from Rome, Oxford, Amsterdam, Linz, and ... Zanesville, OH. Nice to see our little town in such company.
In Christ,
Fr. Pius, OP
Great to hear from you, Father: rescuing liturgical things from the bin, getting them fixed up and used again - right up my street!
Just found your Church on google maps and zoomed in on the satellite image :-)
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