I wonder if they are singing a "Gathering Song"? You could try setting something like "Ree-ed hat of love/Giv'n to us for WIT-ness" - OK, perhaps not.Here is a shot in which you can see the mitre which belonged to Pope Pius IX, and the cope, with 16th century orphrey, last worn by Pope Paul VI:
And here is the throne used for today's ceremony (I think I read that it was from the time of Pope Leo XIII):
It could be said that all of these items have been seen in the relatively recent past so there is nothing essentially new going on here. I'm not so sure and would agree with Zadok the Roman who suggests in his excellent post Consistory Notes that this is Mgr Marini making his mark in terms of the style of celebration. The Curt Jester puts it bluntly with his amusing juxtaposition of two photographs: Liturgical Jeckyll and Hyde or Bishop Marini and Mons. Marini. Fr Z has a list of the Roman Titles of the new Cardinals.
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It seems to me that the Holy Father is gather more and more loyal helpers to his "Marshall Plan" every day. :) Wonderful; thank you, Father.
Yes, there have been changes in the celebration of papal liturgies with the arrival of Marini the Younger, but I wouldn't say changes in vesture are that significant so far. Even Marini the Elder permitted the use of these vestments during his reign at papal MC. We last saw this cope (and morse) used for the Christmas Urbi et Orbi in 2005. As to the mitre, Pope Wojtyla wore it for an Oriental Liturgy:
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I dont really like all that archaism as shown in the pictures you put on the blog. Perhaps the Papal shoes were those worn by Alexander VI ? The Flower arrangements from a 13th century design etc ?
Incidentally I dont know which Pope it was who created the first Cardinals. Perhaps your good self or one of the commenters can help.
If Mons. Guido Marini is reading this, then thank you monsignore.
Now, I would say the place for THAT throne is in front of the Cathedra Petri.
Also, at the Mass for the Consegna dell'annello Cardinalizio this morning the Pope was wearing a dalmatic under his chasuble. Roman Canon, and two Cardinals (in dalmatics) acting at deacons.
Things are looking up here.
Adamz - I did actually address precisely that point in the post...
The comment from Martin is significant in this regard, too.
I don't think there is one straightfoward answer to Father Michael Clifton's question.
The college of cardinals as the body of papal electors seems to date from a decree issued by Pope Nicholas II in 1059.
The practice of creating cardinals from the ranks of senior ecclesiastics outside Rome is probably no older than the twelfth century.
The existence of cardinals, i.e. archpriests or superiors of the senior parishes of Rome is attested to at the Council of Rome in 499.
Long before then, these cardinal presbyters certainly existed and assisted the Bishop of Rome in the administration of his diocese.
But the emergence of the quasi-dioceses which were to become parishes could not have happened until the Roman persecution of the Church ceased.
Cardinal-presbyters (who of course were appointed by the Popes as Bishops of Rome) would appear to date from the third century A.D.
I really don't think it is possible to give an accurate date.
Fr. Tim,
as an aside, I wanted to let you know that I finally made it to a TLM/Classical Rite Mass a couple of weeks ago. It was a real eye-opener and I haven't really gotten my thoughts in order about it yet, but I wanted to thank you for your many posts about it (whether I found them comfortable reading or not) which have been part of my desire to attend/hear/something one for a long time.
I also went to a Trad Tridentine mass. it was Low Mass in Bedford and very dull with no sense of reverence at all, unlike Latin Mass in the 1970 Roman rite as you can see at Farm Street , Ppanish Place & Westminster Cathedral. now they are reverent and have a great sense of the numinous. I think traditionalists who want good liturgy should support the Association for Latin Liturgy, although I am not a member myself.
Incodentally, the Sarum Rite is the traditional Latin Mass in England & it is celebrated in Oxford. The Tridentine rite is a paltry interloper which the English catholics in 1850 tried to resist. It was imposed by Wiseman.
Yes, of course it is an interesting "what if?" of history to reflect on the possible use of the Sarum Rite in England. But the recusants would have been using the Missal of Pius V so it would still have been something of a restoration.
There is a fruitful area of debate regarding Mass in Latin using the 1970 or 1962 rites. It would be rash, I think, to say that all 1962 Masses lack reverence because of your experience of one of them.
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