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Saturday, 15 May 2010

What have you been saying, homophobic wise?



Dale McAlpine is a Christian street preacher who was at his pitch in Cumbria, preaching the gospel. After his preaching, in response to a question from a passerby, he spoke of a number of sins that were condemned in the Bible, including homosexual behaviour. After the passerby made a complaint, the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Liaison Police Community and Support Officer (sic!) challenged him and then arranged for Her Majesty's Constabulary to come and arrest him. You can see the build-up in the video above; it goes like this:
Police: What have you been saying, homophobic wise?

[...]

Dale: I spoke to your officer earlier and he was upset that I was saying homosexuality was a sin - which is what the Bible says. And I affirm that's what I say because that's in the bible and there's no law, there's no law...

Police: Well there is.

Dale: No there isn't

Police: There is. Unfortunately mate, it's a breach of Section 5 of the Public Order Act

[...]

Police: You're under arrest for a racially aggravated Section 5 Public Order offence. You do not have to say anything but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.

OK do you want to walk this way to our van
McAlpine was taken in the van to the police station, locked up for seven hours in a cell, and charged with using abusive or insulting words or behaviour contrary to Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986. This legal measure was introduced to deal with football hooliganism and suchlike behaviour.

Now, thanks to the campaigning of the Christian Institute, the Crown Prosecution Service has "carefully assessed the evidence" and the charges have been dropped.

Nevertheless, the message is quite clear. Dedicated LGBT officers can call in the heavy brigade to bang up street preachers in the cells for a few hours if they dare to mention biblical teaching on homosexuality.

So just who exactly is being bullied here?

24 comments:

Pelicanus said...

If I am not mistaken, the officer from this "LGBT Hit Squad" accused him of a RACIALLY aggravated offence.

It would seem he is an idiot on every level!

vetusta ecclesia said...

And where was the racial aggravation ?

Volpius Leonius said...

The public order act has always been the catch all act that allows police to arrest anyone any individual officers desires to arrest.

It was used extensively against the miners during their strikes as well in its previous form as they were judged to be engaged in "conduct conducive to breach of the peace", which can basicly mean anything the police officer judges it to mean.

As a barrister one commented to my father, "laws are weapons just waiting for someone to use them against another which is why they are never removed from the statue book, the government never knows when it might need to use them."

Quo Vadis said...

I wonder if there is a Christian Liaison Police Community and Support Officer counterpart to the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Liaison Police Community and Support Officer? Do you think we could ask them for help?

Jacob said...

Pretty serious stuff...

Bob Brookes said...

As a retired police officer I already commented on this on my own blog http://bobbrookes.blogspot.com/
"Section 5 of the Public Order Act applies to people using 'threatening, insulting or abusive words or behaviour' causing 'harassment, alarm or distress'.
While some practitioners of homosexuality might be alarmed to realise that it is sinful, stating that such acts are indeed sinful is neither 'threatening, insulting nor abusive'. The police officer concerned wants disciplining, and the arresting officer sued for wrongful arrest!"
I stand by what I said! - It would appear that it is now acceptable to adapt the Law if the end is to be politically correct!

peacebyjesus.com said...

Add this to the collection: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Religious_news_clippings.html

Una madre que educa en el hogar said...

Well, it's not just biblical teaching, it's the teaching of the Catholic Church. Perhaps an examination of conscience is in order. Why aren't police cells full of Catholic priests,bishops,Catholic teachers. I feel that as an RE teacher in exile, if I went a back to the UK, with God's grace, teaching chastity to youngsters would put me in jail within 6 months. It already cost me my jobs, 10 years ago. My wife would have no husband at home, the children no Dad: homosexual behaviour is sin, as is...as is.. Not only are we called to bear witness to God's love, we are called to denounce sin. Perhaps this tyranny of relativism has occurred in the UK, above all, because of our sins of omission. God must be pleased with these martyrial Evangelicals.

Magister Christianus said...

This is insane! Does no one else see the dark cloud of the Nazis in all this?

peacebyjesus.com said...

The real reason is because it is demonically driven by lust. The devil manifestly and malevolently seeks to dishonor God, and controverting the uniquely compatible and complementary union of male and female, and joining same genders instead, is part of that lustful rebellion.

Like Hitler, such lust can never be satisfied, and each conquest demands more. The homosexual movement has thus sought to make everyone and everything homosexual, from God ("Queer theology") to children in kindergarten, to animals in general. The very existence of heterosexuals who will not affirm homosexuality is intolerable. But in contrite repentance and faith in the Lord Jesus, man can be changed from being a rebel against God's word to obedience to God according to it, which benefits not only believers but a country as well.

Paulinus said...

"You're under arrest for a racially aggravated Section 5 Public Order offence."

Racially aggravated?
Am I missing something here? Or is that just a side-order of non-existent racism to add to the non-existent homophobia?

BTW did you see the grin on the face of the PCSO (I believe they are known as Plastic Coppers in the vernacular) between 0:54 and 1:03. There is a man who truly loves his job.

sanabituranima said...

Oh dear.

There is a campaign to sack the new Equality Minister, Theresa May, because she believes homosexual behaviour is sinful. Last time I checked, the facebook group campaigning to sack her had over 44,000 memebers. There is also a group supporting her - with 17 memebers. At this point, I am strongly tempted to say something about the rights of minorities...

Afonso Miguel said...

When the law gives the right to commit moral crimes - like abortion - and incriminates moral defence, the world is lost. And we'll see the time when simply living by christian moral sense will be punished with jail...

Delia said...

Would they have arrested a Muslim quoting the Qur'an? I don't think so somehow.

And imagine the media outcry if someone arrested the Dalai Lama!

sanabituranima said...

"Like Hitler, such lust can never be satisfied, and each conquest demands more."

That is:

a. Extremely over-the-top. Gay sex is to geneocide as to missing Mass is to Satanic ritual abuse.
b. An example of Godwin's law in action.

A Reluctant Sinner said...

Further evidence of secular totalitarianism! It's only the beginning, and things are going to get much worse for Christians in the UK.

Ss Thomas More and John Fisher, pray for us!

Tom said...

He should not have been arrested!

Taken away to a lunatic asylum in a straitjacket yes, arrested, no.

Fr Tim Finigan said...

Tom - putting those who disagree with the state into a mental hospital has certainly been a tactic of totalitarian regimes in the past.i

Nancy Danielson said...

Homosexuality is not a Race, it refers to sexual orientation or sexual preference. Those who identify homosexuality with personhood do so in order to make it appear as if those who refuse to condone homosexual sexual acts because they do not respect the dignity of the Human Person are discriminating against a person, when in fact, they are discriminating against demeaning sexual acts within demeaning sexual relationships.

APOSTOLATE said...

According to PinkPaper and the think tank Ekklesia, the homosexual rights activist Peter Tatchell offered to act as a witness in defence of the Christian street preacher. Furthermore, Tatchell will now be speaking at the Christian Greenbelt summer festival.

http://news.pinkpaper.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=2972

http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/12170

joannis said...

God will destroy our societies on the earth as He certainly destroyed Sodom and Gomorrha. I used to think that there's only really a few bad apples...but that's really not the case; as the disciple accquires the wisdom of experience, his own flesh the closer he comes to God, he discover that just as his own sinful flesh is a subtle enemy, with multiple layers of resistence to God's will (non servium), so the world as well has multiplicitous layers, layer after layer of worldliness that brainwashes the sinner with cloud after cloud of ignorance, which makes it all nigh impossible to "instantly repent" at the last second the way evangelicals pretend to...but it appears that the reality is quite different - there is coming a time very very soon on the historical clock, in which when - like in the days of Noah Our blessed Lord said - when the last trump occur, many are told by Him that its too late - "Go to the moneychangers for the money to buy yourselves oil to put in your lamps! " and, as in many parables of Christ - it is just simply TOO LATE! this is hard to imagine in a society in which guilt is not acknowledged in the tiniest amounts. And the Lord says people will be really really shocked, begging the mountains to fall on them to hide from His severity in the Return He will fearsomely make!

maxtiger said...

That takes the biscuit(a nice little pink one).

'Racially aggravated', please!

I wouldn't be too complimentary of Peter Thatchell defending their right to speak . He just wants to protect his right to shoot his mouth off against all who object to the gay agenda.

John H said...

You "Christians" seem to care more about your witch hunt than God or others. Whatever makes the weak feel righteous I guess ...

Fr Tim Finigan said...

John - it was the Christian guy that was arrested. It is not a "witch hunt" to protest against Christians being arrested for their faith.

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