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Wednesday, 2 March 2011

Helping out the poor, puzzled, BBC

The poor Beeb is puzzled, wondering What motives led to Shahbaz Bhatti's murder in Pakistan?

Let's step cautiously here and suggest that maybe - just mabye - it could have had something to do with the fact that he was the only Catholic minister in the Pakistani government? (The BBC article does not seem to have spotted this possibly relevant fact.)

H/T @lukecoppen

16 comments:

Auricularis said...

The article is by a certain Aamer Ahmed Khan - yep, with a name like that. he's going to be impartial isn't he?

c538c404-4517-11e0-a1f0-000bcdcb8a73 said...

Wrong. Very wrong. I think you meant to say that he was the only Christian in the Paksitan Cabinet.

Fr Tim Finigan said...

He is a Catholic. (Or perhaps you are saying that I am "very wrong" they would have killed any Christian?)

tempus putationis said...

Isn't it strange that someone's Catholic identity is considered relevant by the BBC when they do something shameful, but when they behave heroically they are referred to as 'Christian'?

c538c404-4517-11e0-a1f0-000bcdcb8a73 said...

I mean't that he was killed because he supported a proposal to widen blasphemy laws. His being a Roman Catholic was irrelevant to his killers. They would have killed anyone who supported reform. Yes, his Christian views were probably influential but he would have shared them with other Christians and, indeed, with members of other faiths. I commented because it seemed as if you equated Catholicism as being Christianity.

colmcille2 said...

How much lower can this rotten BBC sink? the article does not even say the victim was a Christian, much less mention 'islamicist' in reference to his killers. The photo shows 'religious', not islamic, parties demonstrating in favour of the previous murder.
However, the BBC World radio service is more helpful; they tell us the victim was a Roman Catholic: not a Catholic, but a Roman Catholic. Please note that, there is an important difference, to the BBC.

G. Tingey said...

Because deranged, stupid murderous religious believers in a non-existent big sky fairy decided to kill another, equally deluded, but otherwise harmless nutter.

Simple.

See - believeing in faires can get people killed.
Ask the Holy Office, after all, they used to do it professionally.

Paulinus said...

It was Colonel Al Mu-Stard, in the Maasjid, with the AK47

Fr Tim Finigan said...

c583 etc. just reread what I wrote and am not sure how "it seemed as if you equated Catholicism as being Christianity". but yes, he was killed particularly because of his proposal concerning the blasphemy laws. They do happen to be blatantly unjust to Christians.

G. Tingey - thank you for that. Believing in God can get you killed by atheists too. Cf. USSR, China, Cambodia etc. All on a rather grander scale than the Inquisition.

JARay said...

He was indeed the only Catholic in the Pakistani government. He was a fine man and he has now joined the list of martyrs for the Faith. The Catholic Church just got another Saint.
I see that we have got one poster who does not know that to be a Catholic is to be a Christian and that the fullness of Christianity is to be found in the Catholic Church.
Those early Christians who were the reason that title was coined, were in fact Catholics.
I do not believe in fairies but I do believe, most strongly, in the Omnipotent God who created G. Tingley and everyone else. Without the Catholic Church the civilisation of Western Europe (what's left of it) would never have existed.

Crux Fidelis said...

Fr Tim: More comments from the likes of G. Tingey, please. Atheists (especially the humorous ones like him) don't get a big enough platform these days. Perhaps you could publish them in your parish bulletin for the benefit of those without access to the net.

G. Tingey said...

Oh dear.

Fr. Tim Finigan...
WHY do you think the communists were so hot on killing of christians?

Because it is a competing religion to communism, that's why!

Communism is a classic religion.
That's why it's so evil.
It's even structrally modelled on the RC church.
Where do you think Stalin learnt all the tricks of internal spying and secret listening and betrayal - when he was a theology student!

Communism has competing sects, who accuse each other, often fatally.
It has "holy" books, and according to sect, different extra ones.
It makes specific predictions about the world, which are wrong, but the believers ignore those wrongnesses.
It murders millions in the "holy name" in order to bring "heaven".
Etc, ad nauseam .....

Fr Tim Finigan said...

Oh, I see how the argument works:

Thesis All wars and atrocities are caused by religion

Objection But some wars and atrocities are caused by other things, notably by militant atheists

Response Oh, but they are really religions in disguise

Therefore All wars and atrocities are caused by religion

That's certainly a convenient way to blame religion for everything. Actually I think that modern British secularism is also a religion. I'm not expecting its tolerance of Christianity to improve any time soon.

JARay said...

I liked your riposte to G Tingey Father. Certainly it is a beautiful cop-out to blame all the ills of the world on religion and if one cannot do that then claim that the holocaust perpetrators were really religions in disguise!
I cannot understand someone who uses "Crux Fidelis" as a username could ever welcome a troll such as the above named to this comment box.
Perhaps they should change that name by putting an "in" in front of the crudelis bit!
I used to enjoy reading Damian Thompson's blog in the Daily Telegraph but it is so infested by the execrance of Britain's secular society which has completely lost all touch and understanding of what makes a tolerant society, that I have stopped reading the usual garbage which is spewed out there.

Fr Tim Finigan said...

Thanks JARay. Crux Fidelis was being ironic, I think.

Damian's blog is good in what he writes but the combox is filled with a lot of the standard stuff you find in any national newspaper combox. It is a good indicator of what we have to cope with as Catholics in England.

Crux Fidelis said...

JARay: Are you American?

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