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Thursday, 1 September 2011

Those pesky laity and their rebelliousness

A comment from Suburbanbanshee received today, deserves greater prominence than being hidden away on my post of 28 June: A rogue instruction in the new people’s cards for Mass
Re: standing and processing to show respect

What you do is, you get two big flagpoles and put big flags with Catholic emblems on them, like the Five Wounds or the Sacred Heart or Mary or your name saint. And when it's time for Communion, you walk down the aisle waving your flags in the air. And then when you receive Communion, you use the poles to prop you as you kneel and get up again. They also make it clear that you can't possibly receive Communion in the hand, because obviously your hands are full.

Yeah, it's probably a good thing I'm not a liturgist. I would be really obnoxious. :)
Now I'm not encouraging this in any way and the following graphic of the five wounds which might be suitable for a banner is posted purely for academic purposes.


Is this after all not an example of the laity making use of the freedom of Vatican II as the late and much lamented Michael Davies used to say?

5 comments:

Kneeling Catholic said...

A beatiful banner, Father!

I think you're right! We laity can only expect so much from the 'paid help'. Present company excepted.

It's time to raise Christ's banner, as did laity did during the Pilgrimage of Grace, and --we eagerly wait it's film release-- the Cristiada. It's time for Sensus Fidelium!

Let's help the Holy Father!

k.c.

Pete said...

one might also remain unmolested during the 'peace' having no free hands, but perhaps not.

Elizabeth said...

I was crying at Mass today and people still insist on shaking hands at the sign of peace.

I was crying because the pastor's current idea expressed in a recent homily is, "nobody should ever correct anybody for anything whatsoever, except sometimes a brother or sister, only if it's grave matter, and first get on your knees and pray some Hail Marys before you go talk to them." And I asked advice in the confessional about someone I was concerned for and how we should to help people to get free of a particular very grave sin which I committed in the past (concubinage/fornication), and asking him what ways I should try to help people other than correcting them, though I pointed out correcting the sinner (appropriately) can be a work of mercy. And he said, nothing, there is absolutely nothing you should do about it and you know you are very rigid and if you try to speak against this sin you will be very alone. I said, the prophets were alone. He said, you are not a prophet. I said, in Christ we are all priest, prophet and king. This is a good priest but I really don't understand him sometimes and I felt like he wouldn't have cared to try to help me when I was so lost in sin and harming myself and others.

So I cried and I am sorry now. What can you do with a woman who cries at Mass?

Cettis Warbler said...

Dear Elizabeth,

If you were crying at Mass I would see if I could help - did no one speak to you?

What you can do to help someone depends on how well you know them. Pointing out sin may drive them further away from breaking free of it. The best way forward may simply be pray and to trust in God.

Cetti

Elizabeth said...

Cetti, they probably knew if they just left me be I'd get over it whatever it was.

Your advice is wise, I think I need to rely more profoundly on prayer for others and sometimes sacrifice. On the other hand the readings for the Ordinary Form of the Mass today are very powerful in favor of the necessity of correcting sinners as an act of charity toward them (or else risk hell oneself!). My pastor who I cried over the other day made a joke that that we're too nice in the Midwest for that correcting the sinner stuff, and then preached on something entirely different. This is on a University campus and it's the first week of school, though, so, some way of welcoming the freshmen if he preached on that, however important a message it is!

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