Today a kind commenter has sent a couple of sketches for possible interiors for the Church.
On balance I think I prefer the second - the Church of St Peter and St Paul in Oberammergau. Here is a close-up of the sanctuary with the "Volksaltar" that could be conveniently wheeled out of the way when necessary:
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Now that's beautiful.
What the heck is a "Volksaltar". You trying to introduce something new, or old, into Blackfen? :-)
Leave the volksaltar in the sacristy, propped up against the wall and take the wheels off!!
We'll bring a bit back for you next year!!!! liz.
Too frilly and rococo for Blackfen. You want something Roman and grander.
Am hoping that an Apostolic Age martyr – or even an Apostle (I don't think they're all accounted for, are they??) – might turn up in your parish to get you off to a good start. Surely a fair chance that one was chucked into a bog off the main Portus Dubris–Londinium road in the first century AD?
But keep a close watch on some of those SE London builders, or you'll be wearing a hard hat permanently under the biretta!
Dear Fr Hermenutic. The choice of Oberammergau parish Church for your minor basilica is excellent. I have been there a few times and it is one of those churches you could sit in for hours. The problem is that to build it here would cost over £10.million. I suggest getting a few parishioners to enter the Euro Lottery each week and give you the big winnings. Also organise a parish trip to Las Vegas to try for the huge jackpots there. To have that Church at Blackfen would be a great tourist draw, worth a dedicated bus service daily to the new basilica.
But those pictures are all lacking a marble-effect plastic gradine, a church furnishing that you have championed. :/
Perhaps if a wealthy benefactor does come along you can have two churches built - one for 'trads only' and one that welcomes altar girls and all the other fun stuff that you like but don't mention in this blog. You could even have your own personal secret tunnel between the two where you change from Clark 'inclusive' Kent into Supertrad Altar-Ego.
Oh dear me! Too frilly! What are we now, a bunch of girls?
What would John Betjeman say to such continental frills and curlicues? It looks like a mad housewife has been let loose with a piping bag and a tin of gold spray paint!
Can't we have something that doesn't look like the Disney set to the latest update of Cinderella?
Something in good old manly English Gothic? A carved wooden rood screen perhaps? Nice stone vaulted arches?
Understated is always good!
Yes, that will do. :)
I think the second pic down would be a good idea for the crypt in your minor basilica.
Father ... I don't like to carp ... but aren't your preferred models rococo rather than baroque?
But certainly a great spirit of the Anglican Catholic Patrimony about both of them. Have you thought of petitioning for a special indult to join an Ordinariate?
Fr Hunwicke - I am sure you are right about the Roccoco. As to the ordinariate, it is very tempting.
Hilary - Frankly I couldn't care less what that snob Betjeman said about anything. Although I do admire English Gothic, rood screens and the like, South German style roccoco is attractive for its sheer exuberance. Delia may be right, though: a good solid Roman Baroque might be more in keeping.
Bead ("profile not available") - Have I offended you in another life or something? Thank you anyway for reading my blog so attentively.
Dear Padre Finigan,
Salutations.
At my web site I have a link to a visual meditation on the sufferings of Christ.
I watched it after I read the lash that you took in this comment section.
A Priest that appears before our Lord soft, and comfortable, is in big trouble. May He grant you the grace to share His suffering, all the days of your priesthood. We will pray you be granted the strengh to perservere.
With the assurance of my Holy Rosary prayers for all your good work in the vineyard of the Divine Master, I remain yours truly in Jesus and Mary Immaculate.
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Dear Padre Finigan
Post script;
My profile is available. The web site I have is www dot traditional catholicism dot org (this has the video of the Passion meditation).
My blog is Et Verbum Caro factum Est aka San Juan Diego blog.
Nice picture of you on your profile. Would it be possible to get another I can post in the pray for Priests section of my website? We are also looking for photos of Nuns.
I would be most appreciative.
Let us pray for the Pope (Oremus pro Pontifice nostro Benedicto).
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I had wondered how 'minor' you meant; obviously quite a lot more minor than the proposed exterior would suggest !
However; given the space issue - the Local Authority probably being reluctant to allow you to demolish too much of the surrounding amenity - I did wonder whether this design might be of some use :
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2009/9/88%20Flying%20Cathedral.jpg
Pablo - thank you for your prayers. Please email me at rosary@freeuk.com and I'll send you a photo - I also have a photo of the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate who would be glad of your prayers, I'm sure.
I am amazed that many of your commenters dislike the rococco style as at Oberammergau. Have they ever been in a true Rococco Church at all.? The finest example is the large Benedictine Church at Ottobeuron also in Bavaria. The designers envisaged a taste of paradise and by george they got it!
Put a picture on if you can.
Nevermind what John Betjeman would have to say: what about Dr. Adrian Fortescue?! Baroque is fine but Rocco is rather frivilous. A Romanesque design like the Birmingham Oratory is just about right.
All very well but what of the little luxuries that make life worth living. How about a Howdah with some ostrich feathers. What you would strap the howdah to I'll leave to you Father. Elephants can be bit of a handful. Only the stuffiest of Traditionalists would turn their noses up at a donkey or a pony.
Dear Dominic Mary. Perfect for High Mass !!!
Gee ... I'd recommend St. Martins Kirche in Garmisch -- it's Beautiful!! I attended Christmas Mass there in 1978 and all the women sat on the right side and all the men on the left.
http://www.kirchbauverein-garmisch.de/images/galerie/bild10_gross.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc5wi0JhgHE&feature=player_embedded
--Guy Power
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