Rather like the heady days before Summorum Pontificum, the story of the SSPX negotiations with the Holy See brings periods of nothing much but rumour, followed by a flurry of activity. Above is the latest item: part of an interview Cardinal Burke gave to CNS today.
This week has been busy for me, with school Mass, Deanery meeting, Deanery Pastoral Council meeting, Board of Examiners meeting at Wonersh, school confessions, a pilgrimage to Ramsgate and the usual parish schedule. In between times, I have been following the story as best I can, especially through the excellent services of Rorate Caeli.
Bishop Fellay's visit to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith on Wednesday was live tweeted far and wide at least as regards his time of entry and departure and the colour of his car (red.) The official statements were not long in coming. The Holy See's Press Communiqué on Thursday was followed quickly by the SSPX Press Communiqué.
Essentially, I think that the two significant points were: 1) it was confirmed by the Holy See that a draft document proposed a personal prelature; 2) the SSPX said that "The desire for supplementary clarifications could lead to a new phase of discussions."
Cathcon brings us an English translation of an informative report at Kathnet which might shed some light on the current state of play. The key sentence is, I think:
Recent public statements of Fellay have given rise to irritation in Rome that the Vatican no longer demanded from the SSPX the acceptance of the entire Second Vatican Council.This may well refer to the interview given by Bishop Fellay to DICI on 8 June. Consider this passage:
Today, in Rome, some people regard a different understanding of the Council as something that is not decisive for the future of the Church, since the Church is more than the Council. Indeed, the Church cannot be reduced to the Council; she is much larger. Therefore we must strive to resolve more far-reaching problems. This new awareness can help us to understanding what is really happening: we are called to help bring to others the treasure of Tradition that we have been able to preserve.I think that would have been acceptable on its own - not to the liberal Cardinals and others who are opposed to the reconciliation of the Society - but acceptable to the Holy Father and his allies as a basis for agreement and a canonical status. The unfortunate sentence, I guess, might have been the one which preceded the above:
What has changed is the fact that Rome no longer makes total acceptance of Vatican II a prerequisite for the canonical solution.Acceptance of Vatican II has to be a prerequisite, at least in the sense of affirming that there were no formal doctrinal errors. The hermeneutic of continuity provides a way forward for those passages about such matters as religious freedom and ecumenism that are controversial. Various writers - and I think particularly of Professor Tom Pink - have offered scholarly and convincingly-argued theses for the reconciliation of Dignitatis Humanae with Quanta Cura, and Unitatis Redintegratio with Quas Primas, showing that is is possible to understand controversial texts of Vatican II in accord with the tradition.
This does not mean that we have to say that they were opportune, that they led us forward into a bright new future, or that they must provide the point of reference for the Church's work in the world, simply that we can ("at a push" if you will) put an interpretation on them which is orthodox.
Bishop Fellay has his own fight within the SSPX which is now well-known. I entirely understand his desire to preserve unity within the Society. Pope Benedict also has a fight on his hands in the Curia. Perhaps part of the process of reconciliation is that both sides realise the civil war that the other is fighting.
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Dear Father Finigan,
I think you have missed some factors of crucial importance here. Bishop Fellay's car was not only red, but was a four-door Peugeot 260 with French license plates! Does this mean the car had been driven from France for this occasion? Why not go by air, unless Bishop F knew something about an Illuminati plot to down his aeroplane that we do not...Was the car on loan from the French District? Did Fr Régis de Cacqueray even know about this? Surely it would have been far more natural to use a car belonging to the Italian District, based in nearby Albano! Was there a dramatic car chase down through Italy, with Fellay's car chased by albino monks in the pay of Cardinal Sodano?
So many unanswered questions, and yet all the commentators remain silent! Where is Tornielli when we really need him!?
We were also told during those first heady moments of the car's arrival that there were three men in the car. Now all we hear is that Bishop Fellay arrived with Fr Niklaus Pfluger. Another smoking gun. Who was this shadowy Lefebvronian 'THIRD MAN'? Logic would point to Fr Alain-Marc Nély, the SSPX number 3, but why would he now be airbrushed out of history with record speed? Unless, of course, it wasn't Fr Nély at all, but an impostor who vanished immediately into the dark labyrinth of the Holy Office.
It's important to stay focused on the real issues here!!! ;).
I am currently not as optimistic as one week ago. Sad now:(
Fr, If I may, the problem is that the SSPX will NEVER and indeed cannot renounce their view that the Second Vatican Council contained errors, that has been their position since the mid 70'. To change would not only be a betrayal of everything they stood for it would also lead to a mass exodus from the society not only of bishops, priests and faithful but also of the allied religious orders and congregations. None of that is likely however as +Fellay has explicitly said:
a)That the SSPX no longer have to accept the whole of V2
b)That the SSPX will not change their doctrinal positions and will 'be the same as before'
The hermenuitic of continuity has never been acceptable to the SSPX, so to force them to accept would likely scuttle these proceedings. I for one do not see why the SSPX must accept the whole of an uninfallible council which no one actually understands in order to be in so called 'full communion'.
What I find interesting is that the liberals are always badgering on about Christian unity, yet they seem to care little about unity within the Catholic Church itself, if the liberal Jesuits at Farm Street can are in union with the Church, why cant SSPX? And don't tell me that the Jesuits at Farm Street love Tradition they seem actively opposed to it. That why liberals love Vatican II, not because they really believe everything in it, but simply that some of the ambiguous language in it gives them ample opportunity to play devilish games with the magisterium. I am not an SSPX supporter but if it was a choice between having the Farm Street Jesuits or the SSPX in my team, I would pick SSPX every time. God bless our wonderful Pope Benedict and Cardinal Burke, for trying to bring real unity to the Catholic Church, rather than the sentimental 'lets hold hands' and say doctrine doesn't matter type of rubbish as espoused by the liberals and groups such as the Charismatic Renewal.
May I focus on the real issues for Lamentably Sane. I have been going to Mass since well before Vatican II. I was manoevered into standing for Holy Communion and receiving on the hand since the story was spinned that this was how it was received for six hundred years. Lately I have found this was not true. My parish is run by a committe who do not `follow Peter` and indeed do not follow the moral teachings of Jesus Christ. They use their conscience.
They do not indulge in `superstitions` practices like devotion to Mary They consider their minds are now open and will take part in any ecumenical activity with Protestant Churches but let anyone ask for a Latin Mass. I stand up with those people on a Sunday to say the Creed knowing full well that `we` do not agree on belief and was glad of the change to `I`. Now if I go to a ST Pius X Mass I am at one with the professed beliefs of everyone around me. We are One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic something I do not experience at the vernacular Masses. These things are changing and I want to see our children rescued from false catechesis which has emptied the Church. IN 1980 there were 3 million people going to Mass in England and Wales, now there are just over 800,000, this is caused mainly by 9 out of 10 young people leaving school being so badly formed in the faith that they just no nothing about it. It is not so much the St Pius X Society that needs to change but the mainstream Church
Time will allow Vatican II to be seen in light of all the other councils that went before it. The liberals used it as an excuse to teach heresy and rebellion that leads to apostacy from faith. The council should not be reflected in this manner. Perhaps the post Vatican II need to be reassessed. rankly what was wrong with the Liturgical form of 1955-69?
Both sides were caught completely off-gaurd when the Holy Mother and her Son spoke through some persecuted (by Menzingzen) Priests of the SSPX.
Those sermons can be found at you tube; type into the search bar 469fitter (no spaces).
They are listed as SSPX v. Rome.
Also the sermon at Winona, Minnisota, USA of Bishop Tessier.
The message angered those Bishop Fellay groupies in attendance, as it was believed Bishop Tessier said he will not follow into apostate Rome.
Some in the SSPX believe it was wrong, and Heaven is upset Bishop Fellay had his first Rosary Crusade to lift the excommunications, with the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart second or third.
Also, at you tube, the sermon of Fr. Girouard is extremely hard hitting (SSPX CRISIS - FR. GIROUARD'S SERMON - TRINITY SUNDAY ) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhBAcf922tw&feature=colike
He trounces Bishop Fellay with his own words.
Viva Cristo Rey!
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The Holy Mother and her Son are speaking through this Holy Priest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeT23oy5DoY&feature=colike
He was threatened for having said the Truths contained in his sermon.
You tube: in the search type in 469fitter (no spaces) should the link not work.
Video name:
Padre Hewko Sermon Winona Consecrations 2012 you tube.wmv
Viva Cristo Rey!
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It is bizarre that if Cardinal Ratzinger previous stated:
"The truth is that this particular Council defined no dogma at all, and deliberately chose to remain on a modest level, as a merely pastoral council."
then why the SSPX are required to sign up to anything regarding Vatican II at all? It appears to indicate that the agenda behind the Council is still alive and kicking, and admitting that it has been failed experiment (or at least, optional) would be too much for these liberals.
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