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Friday, 25 January 2008

Changing from BT

Earlier today I was thinking that I must ring British Telecom to find out what broadband package they could offer along with the phone line. There are usually discounts for bundled services and I though I might as well stay with them.

Then I opened my post. Included was a letter from them which was not a bill and very nearly went into the bin (with about 75% of my post). Fortunately, I read the letter first. "We're automatically upgrading your line, at no extra cost, so you never miss a call wherever you are." Not terribly interested. If I'm out of the house, I usually can't answer the phone on account of teaching, seeing someone who needs to talk to me uninterrupted or saying a traditional Mass, that kind of thing. Even when I am on the train, diverting calls to my mobile will not usually help because I would need to be in the house to tell them whether they can hire the hall or were baptised in the parish or whatever.

Then I find that not only are BT "automatically" upgrading my line but they are also automatically sticking me on a 12 month "rolling contract". Taking out a magnifying glass to read the small print in light grey at the bottom of the reverse page, I find that this means that if I do nothing, they will sting me in month 13 for £100 for a service I don't want or need. To avoid this happening I have to ring them up. Not . Pleased . At . All. Well done, whichever fancy-pants loon thought up this scam: from loyal customer of BT, I instantly become implacable enemy. 13 months down the line, I expect that many other loyal customers will be snarling when they realise that they have been conned.

So I ring them up. When I eventually get through, I explain politely that I do not wish to receive this service. Since "calls may be recorded for monitoring and training purposes" I also explain (still politely) that this letter has motivated me to decide that I will change my telephone provider.

So back to square one. Anyone got good experience of a phone provider? I need one normal business line. I need to keep the same phone number. I want to get faster broadband. Currently I'm on half a megabyte which is nowadays pretty measly. A bundled deal with phone and broadband would be good.

And to lawyers out there - is this really a "contract"? Had I thrown this in the bin, would I be bound by its terms? Is it worth a quick email to the Office of Fair Trading?

8 comments:

Dr. Peter H. Wright said...

Yes, Father, I can recommend Toucan.

You can go to their website and see what packages they offer.

Payment is monthly by Direct Debit, and is definitely cheaper than BT !

Mac McLernon said...

I like Virgin Media... Of course, it used to be NTL before Branson got hold of them!

CatholicLawyer said...

Father,
It's arguable whether you agreed to this. Even if you did, since this is distance selling/marketing, so you have a 14-day period “cooling off” period - within which you may legitimately cancel the contract. BT is full of tricks like this. They almost caught me too – offering me a £3 per month reduction on my broadband charge. Then I asked for the catch and they said – you have to sign up for another 12 months!” And they very cheekily call you up with marketing calls – because they know your number. Cheek! A call to Which? is better probably than to OFT at this stage. Your Tel number should be transferable now to another service provider - I know they are with mobile phones, so may be the case with landlines. Call then up and insist on it. A very good complaint vehicle is the EU ombuds too.

Hilary Jane Margaret White said...

Voicenet

they're cheap, small and they answer the phone when you call them.

BT's evil.

Mark said...

I'm no lawyer, and I don't know about England and Wales, but here in Scotland contracts normally have to contain fair terms. I'm sure there are actually UK-wide regulations about it -- possibly the ones being used to get Banks to drop their charges.

I would complain to BT and then complain to the OFT. At the same time, try to wangle your line switched. At the moment they've got you over a barrel because they provide the telephone service.

The Bookworm said...

I have had good experience with Tiscali. I have used them for broadband for a while and recently switched to their all-in package. I get broadband (8Mb I think?), line rental and unlimited free calls to all 01 and 02 numbers for £19.99 a month. I can also supposedly make calls of up to an hour to several other countries (including the US) free - this sounds almost too good to be true, and as I have no need to make calls abroad I've never tested it. Tiscali charged a £30 set up fee to switch the line, and yes, I still have the same phone number.

Fr Justin said...

I have a good contract from, er, Sky. Though I am not entirely easy giving even more money to Mr Murdoch, for the same price of my old slow broadband (OneTel), I now have a fast broadband, all phone calls to the UK and 4 or so European countries free and (should I want to watch it) Sky TV—which does include EWTN.

Antonia Robinson said...

We've switched to Tiscali about three months ago and now get our line rental, free local and national calls (geographic numbers), free international calls to 10 countries (very low rates to others), 8MB broadband (wireless), and IPTV all for £25 a month. It's £20 a month without the TV. There's a £30 set up fee and you can keep your landline number. Customer service has been excellent (that was our reason for leaving BT/OneTel). So far we're really pleased.

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